Regarding Licensing and the old saying about 10 foot poles, Iâll go Spinal Tap on that and say I wouldnât touch Oracle Licensing with an 11 foot pole.
Decades ago someone established that the Oracle License terms at that time covered loading up and testing whether or not an Oracle backup could be recovered and started on a standby server.
That included doing test counts and comparative reports to be certain all the data was there.
I do not have an 11 foot pole nor an understanding whether that license and testing for fitness for purpose ( a multi-user data store that could be backed up to a remote location and periodically be sent incremental revisions proportional in size to the update volume to the remote location so that an up to date copy of the database could be available for recovery in case of the unavailability of the primary location) still holds legal water.
That pre-dated the observation circa 1995 that shutdown, copy, startup rename, recover through last available log and then start original database and resume recovery, could make available a âfrozenâ renamed version of the database (for testing data consistency if nothing else) while the continuous recovery resumed without re-instantiating the recovery database.
This observation literally led to a shout of âbut you canât resume recovery if you started it!â from the audience at what was then Open World by a not quite careful listener, while I was giving a talk about it. (I was among several practitioners of Oracle tech who independently discovered this rename on startup mount trick after copying the original database files, etc. locally, I make no claim to be first. It worked correctly at a large retail organization with offices in Lebanon, NH and Burlington, NJ from about 6.0.37. )
After my talk a project to productize and automate Standby Recovery was initiated and that eventually became DataGuard. Somewhere along the line license costs on any infrastructure used to test recoverability began to be promulgated. Iâve lost track of the exact order of that history.
I donât know whether a search of your license will reveal a right to test whether or not a backup is truly recoverable and consistent with what it was supposed to be a backup of is still in there.
Good luck.
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The licensing question for Dataguard vs. standby data was always âis PMON running?â If you are replicating Power binaries to x86, the software is not running (nor is it installed). I donât see how you can be viewed as anything except having backups of both binaries and data until you hook the disk up to the correct machine architecture (and In my opinion, launch the binaries as well).
It could be terminology, Oracle hears standby as Dataguard which means pmon is running and must be licensed. If that does not describe environment, call it a live backup when talking to Oracle..
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On Nov 14, 2018, at 11:07 AM, ***@gmail.com wrote:
I was following up on Dave's
Even though, as long as it wasn't open, a standby never had to be licensed
before 2014?
I hadn't realized it was a thread on storage replication to be honest because of the subject line change. In any case, unless hot standby means replicated data and not a second set of database processes I don't see how the installed and running clause won't get you.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:34 AM ***@bluewin.ch <***@bluewin.ch> wrote:
In this case the replication is on the storage tier. That is a lot different from Data Guard. Data Guard requires an instance running on the disaster site.
Storage replacation does not require that. It is not even necessary that Oracle Software is installed on the disaster site at all.
If it is installed, it might no be running. All of that can make a difference.
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A standby database ( and dev databases) has always* been licensable, and in the same way as the primary. The only exceptions will be if you specifically inserted a clause otherwise in your contract with Oracle, or if you are using named user licensing. That is unlikely to say the least. As an example, I offer the EMEA OLSA from June 2000 http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/olsa-ire-v122304-070683.pdf note the definition of processor.
I suspect this comes from the wording of the docs when Active Data Guard arrived
"*Oracle Data Guard 11g*
. Is included with Oracle Database Enterprise Edition - it does not require a separate license . It Includes all Data Guard capabilities from previous releases and many
other new features that enhance data protection, high availability, disaster recovery, and utilization of standby databases and systems"
The point of which was to distinguish between DataGuard being an EE feature and Active Data Guard being chargeable and not to indicate that DR was free.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 8:31 PM Iggy Fernandez <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
The "policies" are explicitly non-contractual and may be revoked or changed by Oracle at any time. However, there is probably a good legal argument that you relied on them for guidance.
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So, forgive me, but am I correct in thinking that my hot standby server
now has to be licensed? And is supposed to have been since 2014?
Even though, as long as it wasn't open, a standby never had to be licensed
before 2014?
Dave
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